[Glorantha] Re: ILH2 - Irippi Ontor

[Trotsky]

John Machin:

>Irippi Ontor has both a formulary and a grimoire, but there is no
>accompanying remark to indicate that the formulary is for novitiates
>or the grimoire is for ordinates. 
>
That's not the way it works for actual wizardry users either, though, - 
they don't generally advance from formulary-using orderly to 
grimoire-using adept, since most cults only use one or the other. 
Orderly and adept don't really map to initiate and devotee in the way 
that ordinate and novitiate seem to, so we wouldn't expect to see that 
sort of parallel. (The Loskalmi might be an exception here, but we 
haven't seen the rules for them yet). FWIW, the wizardry equivalent of a 
devotee is a magus, not an adept, and magus-type powers don't seem to be 
available to the Lunars.

>Does this mean that Irippi Ontor
>provides a formulary *and* a grimoire to his worshippers
>simultaneously? 
>
Presumably, yes.

>And, if so, isn't that a bit odd ("I need to go get
>*these* talismans recharged, but *those* ones I can use all I want"?).
>
I imagine that's exactly the idea, yes. No stranger, really, than having 
a theist affinity alongside a grimoire, or anything else: " *these* 
powers have to be used with talismans and do exactly what they say on 
the tin, but *those* powers I can improvise all I like, and those 
*other* ones I can put in a fetish, and gain special advantages from 
that way."

-- 
Trotsky
Gamer and Skeptic

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