[Glorantha] Re: Imperial Age Vithela

Nils Weinander nils at weinander.org
Thu Nov 2 11:29:39 GMT 2006


Peter:
>>
>> As for the Valkarians, you could explain that if Valkaro
>> came to the East Isles in the late second age perhaps?
> 
> The only date that I have about Valkaro comes from
> the Sog City guidebook (p9) where he is listed as a
> delegate for the Fifth Ecclesiastical Council in 821
> ST.  But this source is less than authoritative.

OK, it's something to go on at least.

> However:
> 
>          Valkaro, disturbed at the perfidy of the Jrusteli Empire
>          and the God-Learners left his rich home and lands to
>          travel to the distant East Isles. There he preached the
>          Malkioni Liberation, and succeeded in converting all
>          the inhabitants of one island to that philosophy. He
>          defended his converts against the Eastern Seas Empire
>          in a famous war instigated by Brithini diplomats.
> 
> Now if the God Learners actually controlled a large chunk of
> Vithela at the time, the war wouldn't be quite so famous.

I think this fame varies depending on who you ask. The
Valkarians would see it as famous, other East Islanders
might not. But, this makes for an interesting situation:
three potentially hostile parts: the Mokato Empire, the
Jrusteli on Haragala and the Valkarians. I see plenty of
opportunity to explain how their interactions changed the
political map.

> The only reconciliation that I can see is that Valkaro is
> the William Penn of Vithela (persecuted in England for
> being a Quaker yet became the owner of Pennsylvannia
> under the aegis of the British crown).  The famous war
> has happened in the past and the Haragalans have
> attached themselves to the God Learners and/or
> Valkaro after his victory.

Quite possible. The Valkarians could then have helped the
East Islanders to eventually throw the Jrusteli out of
Haragala.

>> But, I also assume that this (and the other startling things
>> Peter mentions) can fall under YGWV, as the MRQ publications
>> may not necessarily match the Moon Design HQ publications,
>> which may not necessarily match things that Greg writes.
> 
> I have no idea on what the policy on differences is which is why
> I forbore from labelling some of the startling things as errors.

A wise choice IMO. Since Greg doesn't exercise direct
editorial control, discrepancies are most likely inevitable.
Right now I'm beginning to enjoy fitting these new facts
into what I (think) I know about the East Isles!
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