[Glorantha] Chaotics and Great Selves

[Peter Metcalfe]

Simon Hibbs:

>Me>So chaotics can be Lunar Illuminates in the same way
> >that blind people can.

>There seem to be two things going on here with Chaos. On the one hand
>it's the loss of the Great Self,

Being chaotic does not mean the loss of the Great Self - not even
for vampires (The Soul/Spirit/Essense is not the Great Self).  Some
chaotics have lost their Great Self but the status of being chaotic is
a passionate rejection of the moral nature of the Cosmos, not the
destruction of the Great Self.

The Crimson Bat is chaotic yet has a Great Self according to the
Glorantha: Intro p123.  Sheng Seleris is not chaotic yet he has
no Great Self.

>Or is Rufelza's (the physical
>red moon) chaoticness a result of the fact that it lacks a Great Self
>because the godess transcended and left it behind? It's like the dead
>skin shed by a snake, with the form of a living thing but empty and
>devoid of life.

Sedenya is manifestly present within Rufelza.

>According to the Buddha he
>could see the Great Self in everything, even inanimate objects, but in
>Glorantha it appears that even people can lack a Great Self so the
>arguments and analysis that work for Buddhism fail for the Lunar
>religion.

I fail to see what the problem is.  Most gloranthans do not know their
Great Self.  A small minority have realized it while a few others have
destroyed it.

--Peter Metcalfe