[Glorantha] Re: Heortling ancestor knowledge and magic?

[Simon Phipp]

Simon Hibbs:
  > From: donald at grove.demon.co.uk (Donald R. Oddy):
>>... However in Glorantha belief makes reality...
>
> Shall we avoid a big fight here and just say that this is your personal opinion,
> and a matter of some general disagreement, ok?
   
  Oh, and I had just finished loading the shotgun ...
   
  Benedict Adamson:

  > In my play experience, nothing good ever comes from intervention by the 
> Ancestors. They complain and criticise, but never praise. They urge the 
> clan to continue destructive feuds rather than seek peace. In short, 
> they are a bunch of bitter grumbling old men, which makes sense given 
> that they are dead.
   
  Make friends with the Brambletweasers? Over my dead ... oh, well, never, not as long as I have a say. Have you forgotten that Old Man Brambletweaser took first portion of the White Stag when EVERYONE knows that I should have had it? Live and let live? I don't think so. Too many people have joined us to let them off the hook now. Even now, they are laughing about it.
  
> In Orlanth is Dead, the Ancestors provide some information about how the 
> Fimbulwinter compares with the crises they lived/died in.

  Call this a winter? Pah, in my day we had proper winters, not like this cold snap. We had winters that lasted generations, with not even a Sun to warm them.
   
  Lunars? Pah, don't talk to me about Lunars. In my day, we had Arkat coming over and killing everybody. Why do you think you've so many ancestors? Seven Mothers? Don't make me laugh. Arkat had the trolls and worse. They didn't tax you, they just ate everything. Don't know you're born.
   
  Problems? Pah, don't talk to me about problems. You don;t know what problems are until you've had your whole clan eaten by a dragon. Not a group of dragons, mind, but just one, a really big one. No, I mean a really big one. Blotted out the Sun, it did, and the stars. Came over and ate the lot of us in one gulp. Problems? Hah! Wait until the dragons come, then you'll have problems.
   
  Simon (Naturally a bitter grumbling old man)