[Glorantha] Re: Antigods and Gods

[Julian Lord]

Greg :


YGWV
>
> > From: Peter Metcalfe <metcalph at quicksilver.net.nz>
> opens the door to a fascinating, complex and difficult subject
>
> Joerg:
> >> > In Eastern mythology, the Sea always seems to be working
> >> > hand in hand with the antigods - I think there's some dark
> >> > source in their mythology which the antigods find easy to
> >> > attune to.
>
> Nils:
> >> I think most of the sea gods are actually considered to be
> >> antigods. E.g. Venperesha is the antigoddess of sea animals.
>
> Peter:
> > That's a subjective and polemical classification (one readily
> > made by the Vithelans) but it doesn't address Joerg's
> > problem.
>
> The Vithelan classification of gods and antigods is actually pretty
> clear cut, though not stated out clearly in the UW.


Yep -- indeed, the simple fact that the classification is subjective
and polemical is enough to provide a clear cut distinction between the
mystic gods and the antigods,  because
the mystic gods are per se objective and harmonious...

> The sea gods are not part of the Vithelan pantheon
> > but have their own mythology and connection with
> > the Transcendent.  As a result, they are no more
> > antigods than the Orlanthi are.
>
> But the Orlanthi are, in fact, antigods. Just as the Sea Gods are, and
> the Solar Gods, and most of the Beings worshipped in Glorantha.


Exactly, and here's the misunderstanding -- they are in fact the
antithesis of transcendental nature, despite the fact that they
paradoxically encompass some part of transcendental reality -- but
they therefore, effectively, neuter their own nature (from a mystic
POV).

Julian Lord