[Glorantha] Re: Orlanth's exile and Vadrus

[Jane Williams]

> I will have to check TR, which I don't have handy, but
> I believe it says that "Orlanth was away, as he often
> was" when Barntar was killed.

I don't remember that wording at all.

Another little sub-word-count snippet, then:

"caused Orlanth to be outlawed..... While Orlanth was gone, kinstrife rocked
the Storm Tribe. Finally, Vadrus killed Barntar, who stayed dead. This was
the first true death in the kinstrife."


> Similarly, I
> thought it was in avenging Barntar that Orlanth used a
> wrestling throw in his duel with Vadrus, so that
> Vadrus remained twisted ever after.

If so, it isn't stated in *this* myth. This is concerned with Vadrus being
deposed and replaced by Valind, who Orlanth fondly imagined might be an
improvement :(

The details may well be given elsewhere, of course.
 
> > Can you define the dynasty as kin-slayers? That's
> > Vadrus' defining sin in this myth.
> 
> Well, not legally. Metaphorically, maybe. Certainly
> the Tarshite royals act like they are our kin -- they
> know our customs, speak a related language, and in
> general behave a lot like us except they are fooling
> around with Chaos and have exiled Orlanth.

I suppose "part of the Storm Tribe" might be close enough. Vingkotlings, in
the myth. And metaphorically/mythically is what you want, here, legal
niceties are irrelevant.


> The only thing I could add: The Helamakt writeup in TR
> says that Heler took the name Helamakt when he went
> looking for the exiled Orlanth and helped him fight an
> enemy. So for Sartarite Orlanthi, it's possible that
> seeking Orlanth in exile is sort of the "founding
> myth" of the Helamakt subcult. Note that the Helerings
> have a different mythic origin for Helamakt (given in
> _Storm Tribe_).

And I see he's one of those temporary husbands, too.

> I think in Seattle Farmers we have assumed that
> Orlanth is Ernalda's year-husband. He typically gets
> his contract renewed, but obviously couldn't while he
> was in exile.

Makes sense to me.

> According to the writeup of the Niskis subcult in TR,
> Dashing Veradash _was_ Orlanth, in disguise. So it's
> true that he boffed every goddess he could get his
> hands on, including his own once-and-future wife.

That's typical! Though you have to remember that Ernalda did the same sort
of trick on him at times.