[Glorantha] Re: Orlanth's exile and Vadrus

[Rob Helm]

> > read: It sounds like the Whitewall group thought
> that
> > Barntar was killed while Orlanth was in exile, and
> > Orlanth deposed and crippled Vadrus after he got
> back.

> Not "thought that", that's explicitly stated in the
> myth. Well, Barntar's
> death is - Vadrus is stated as deposed, but not
> crippled.

I will have to check TR, which I don't have handy, but
I believe it says that "Orlanth was away, as he often
was" when Barntar was killed. That doesn't imply the
myth happened in the exile period. Similarly, I
thought it was in avenging Barntar that Orlanth used a
wrestling throw in his duel with Vadrus, so that
Vadrus remained twisted ever after.

> Can you define the dynasty as kin-slayers? That's
> Vadrus' defining sin in this myth.

Well, not legally. Metaphorically, maybe. Certainly
the Tarshite royals act like they are our kin -- they
know our customs, speak a related language, and in
general behave a lot like us except they are fooling
around with Chaos and have exiled Orlanth.

>  could someone also say what
> Orlanth was
> supposedly doing while outlawed?  Which subcults
> would have their major
> myths from this period?"

The only thing I could add: The Helamakt writeup in TR
says that Heler took the name Helamakt when he went
looking for the exiled Orlanth and helped him fight an
enemy. So for Sartarite Orlanthi, it's possible that
seeking Orlanth in exile is sort of the "founding
myth" of the Helamakt subcult. Note that the Helerings
have a different mythic origin for Helamakt (given in
_Storm Tribe_).

> How about this? "This is the time of Ernalda's
> "other guardians"....Here is a
> partial list of her
> temporary husbands: Elmal the Bright, Heler the
> Shaggy, Vestkarthen of the
> Deep, Dojor the Black, Delan the Strong, and Dashing
> Veradash."

I think in Seattle Farmers we have assumed that
Orlanth is Ernalda's year-husband. He typically gets
his contract renewed, but obviously couldn't while he
was in exile.

According to the writeup of the Niskis subcult in TR,
Dashing Veradash _was_ Orlanth, in disguise. So it's
true that he boffed every goddess he could get his
hands on, including his own once-and-future wife.

Rob

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