[Glorantha] Re: Fights on Ships

[Light Castle]

On Wed, 2005-06-07 at 11:00 +0000, glorantha-request at rpglist.org wrote:

Dr. Martin Dick

> Is there anyone on the list who actually likes key plot points
> being kept from them as the Narrator in source material and
> scenarios?

I don't think so. It seems this group (which may be a very self-selected
one, mind you), prefers more information to less.

> Paul Andrew King <paul at morat.demon.co.uk>

> Perhaps the fight is part of the myth Kallyr is trying to follow ? 

This is along the lines of my original idea.

> Minaryth's speech might be part of that, 

Not sure what you're getting at here. (I do notice that Minaryth
specifically says at the end of his speech, "we must do something new" -
an admission perhaps they intend to do some experimental HeroQuesting?)

> or it might be that Minaryth 
> and Kallyr believe that SOMEONE is going to be ambushed and want to 
> be the ones who start the fight rather than risk being the ones who 
> get attacked.  Minaryth IS expecting a quick intervention from some 
> quarter.

That's an interesting idea. A fight *will* break out, and starting it
might just give them the advantage? (One thing I find odd looking at it
again is that although the scenario sets up an ambush it gives
absolutely no thought to the idea that the PCs might succeed at killing
their foes with one shot, thus preventing the fight from happening.)

> My guess would be that either Kallyr expects to be able to beat the 
> crew and seize the Ship (perhaps based on the story of Vendeni ?) or 
> expects the fight to go differently (perhaps the crew are "meant" to 
> subdue the attackers and then maroon them ?).

That would make some sense. Maybe the fact it is Anaxial instead of
Vendeni defeats her? I do like the idea that the fight is expected, but
isn't "supposed" to go the way it does. 

> Thinking about this, it seems to me that it would have been good to 
> supplement the scenario with a description of the Hero Quest itself. 
> Certainly including notes on the expected course of events (and how 
> the expectations of Kallyr, Minaryth and Danar differ from the actual 
> course of events).  It would be even better if we had some 
> information on another variant or two such as the version Andrega 
> Silverflame is following. 

There is that as well. That would have been useful just from the idea of
how something with overlapping myths like this is dealt with. Obviously
the forces opposing are also playing with some variants of the Quest.
What I find interesting is that the ship is attacked by Sky folk and
then saved by Angels of Antirius (more sky folk), then attacked by
Orlanth (!), then Shargash,then the Hippo. The paragraph explaining some
of the opposition to the ship imply the Lunars involved with the Temple
of the Reaching Moon are resisting, but how did they enlist Orlanth to
their cause? 

LC